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Answers to many questions regarding the Online School (including a complete schedule for the year) may be found in the Terms and Conditions.
Yes. We use GoToMeeting.com for our classes. This technology allows students and teachers to interact screen-to-screen in real time. It's not face-to-face but it sure looks like it.
The format of each class is determined by its teacher. The GoToMeeting technology allows for audio and visual communication between student and teacher, similar to a physical classroom.
Archived recordings of missed classes are posted through GoToMeeting and must be viewed by absent students in a timely manner. The student is responsible for obtaining any notes or assignments from any class from another student or any bulletin board maintained by the Teacher.
The main differences are class size, the number of meetings per week, the amount of homework required, and how work is credited on a transcript.
An Online Class is limited to 24 students. Online Classes meet 5 days a week, Monday through Friday, for 50 minutes per day, and in almost every respect resemble a typical class at a classical Christian school. The teacher grades student work, receiving and returning completed assignments using whatever method works best for the class (Google Docs are a favorite among teachers). Successful completion of an Online Class results in 1 credit on the student's transcript.
Online Seminars can have up to 1000 registrants. They meet only once a week for 60 minutes. There are readings required to gain context for the lectures and for participation in discussion, but due to the number of participants, the teacher of the seminar does not hold participants accountable for any academic work other than reading. If a school or a homeschooling parent wants to have their student recieve credit on their transcript for the class, they may assign work to go with the class.
A good example of this would be N.D. Wilson's seminar: Rhetoric, Culture, and Communication. Mr. Wilson will lecture and assign relevant readings, but will not assign or grade papers. This leaves the school or parent free to assign anywhere from 1 paper or 57 papers throughout the year, depending on their fondness for grading. If you have signed up for the Transcript and Diploma service (included in the grade-level bundle or separately), just let us know you have done the course for credit and we will add it to your transcript as an elective.
Many of the Seminars we're offering this year would work perfectly in a group setting, whether its a class at your school, a neighborhood group in your living room, or your entire homeschool co-op. These are our group rates:
All you need is an internet connection (reliable Wifi, 3G or higher, DSL or higher) and a device with audio and visual capabilities (desktop, laptop, tablet, smart phone, etc). Click here for a complete list of GoToMeeting's system requirements.
We are no longer making individual reading guides available as downloads. The reason for this is that Logos Press is now owned by Canon Press and we have to be more careful about having full, unprotected PDFs of our materials widely available. Most of the guides are still available as physical copies, but if you don't see something you need, give us a call and we can usually print older reading guides for you.
Absolutely. We’ve completely redone the DVDs for efficiency and usability, but the order and content of the individual chapters remains the same, so the books are still compatible.
The only difference is with the Introductory Logic Test Book: In the Introductory Logic DVD course, James Nance works through a practice test for each unit, and those blank practice tests are not included in the current edition of the Introductory Logic Test Book (of course, you can still follow along as he works through the test on the DVD).
Yes, you can—the order and content for most of the book has not changed. However, we’ve added some neat new features to the Intermediate Logic DVD course that the current textbook does not contain (yet).
1) The current edition of the Intermediate Logic Test Book does not contain blank copies of the practice tests from the DVD course.
2) The current Intermediate Logic books do not contain the DVD course’s “Lesson 28: Applying Tools to Actual Arguments.”
3) Neither do the current books contain the optional fifth unit on Digital Logic. (The Intermediate Logic DVD course covers the optional Digital Logic unit in Lessons 29-39.)
Yes! You can expect the new editions of the textbooks (both Introductory Logic: The Fundamentals of Thinking Well and Intermediate Logic: Mastering Propositional Logic) by the end of 2013. Right now, they’re in the process of being reformatted, redesigned, and supplemented—and we think you all (teachers, homeschooling parents, individual students, teaching co-ops, etc.) will be very pleased with the functionality and usability of the new editions.
The main reason we have made these bundles is to make the Logos School expience do-able for home educators. Most of the curriculum Logos School uses is written specifically for the classroom setting, which is not a practical format for homeschoolers. Sandy Belschner and Dr. Larry Stephenson have worked tirelessly to gather materials that educate according to the same principles as Logos School and are perfectly suited to the homeschooling environment.
Yes, most of the time you can. For example, if you want to buy the 6th Grade Bundle but your child has already take Saxon Math 6/7, you can change the math to Saxon Math 7/8 and buy the bundle at the same price. Just give us a call or write a comment when you order online to let us know that is what you'd like to do.
Yes. If you love the 8th grade bundle but you already own a copies of Robinson Crusoe and A Christmas Carol, you can call us up to let know and we'll adjust the price for you. However, use caution! We have written daily lesson plans that use page numbers from the specific editions we include in the bundles. We have tried to find the least expensive editions of each of these books, so it may be worth a few extra dollars to purchase the whole bundle to ensure you get the correct edition to go with the lesson plans.
No. Our Daily Lesson Plans are printed by grade level only. See this sample.
Because this is our launch year for the homeschool bundles, we decided to begin with the relatively simple grades. We are currently working on gathering excellent materials for these grades to be included in the curriculum next year.
We assume that Bible study is already an integral and essential part of the child's daily schedule. We believe that science, for Christians, is simply observing and describing God's creation. Our books are carefully selected to provide marvelous examples of all of the wonders of His creation. Our materials are written to provide a framework for an organized study of science, not as a tool to provide our own commentary. If science is viewed from a Christian perspective, then His invisible qualities will be clearly seen (Romans 1:20) without any need for comments from us.
We have also chosen not to include Scriptural references in our materials. Many science programs are being marketed as Christian homeschool science because they have sprinkled in a Bible verse here and there. Some of these programs use verses that are clearly taken out of context. In our opinion, it is unacceptable to teach children to mold Scripture to fit our needs rather than allowing it to teach us in context. We instead recommend that a complete, sound Bible study be used in conjunction with our curriculum (or any other).
Evolution and other secular ideas are occasionally presented in the books that we provide. However, we do not include books that are overly dogmatic in their presentation of these ideas. We think it is important for children to learn differing views and to have meaningful discussions about these topics with their parents. Covering up or hiding these ideas in the home school only creates confusion for the child who hears and sees this information presented elsewhere (e.g. television, radio, magazines, bumper stickers, college,...). We also think it is more important for children to hear what their own parents believe about these issues than what we believe. For this reason, we have not included commentary for these discussions.
Think about the last time that you were trying to learn something new. Did you run out looking for the best 500 page workbook that you could find on the subject? I doubt it. You more likely searched for the best books available on that topic with engaging text and practical examples (with pictures!). Maybe you took some notes or discussed what you learned with someone else that had knowledge of the subject. Now think about how much you still remember. Most of us are products of a classroom education. Our grades were typically based on successfully completing a series of worksheets, quizzes, and tests. The information was placed in short-term memory by cramming for the next exam. Upon successfully satisfying our need for the information, we then quickly forgot it and moved on to the next task. Unfortunately, these evaluation tools are sometimes necessary in an environment where large numbers of students need to be graded at the same time. However, we should not limit our teaching techniques to those methods that are most familiar to us. There are many more natural learning tools available to homeschoolers.
Charlotte Mason used the term "narration" to describe a student's summary of a recent reading assignment. The student was required to read, or listen to someone reading, a short section of a book. The student then submitted an oral or written recount of the text in their own words. The child was evaluated based on their recollection of the reading. It is not possible or desirable to have an "answer key" for such discussions. The narrations are very individualized and allow for creativity. Most of all, narrations are an effective teaching tool that require a student to respond to their learning and to "own" their newly discovered knowledge. Understandably, this technique has also been called the "teach back" method. As a teacher, you can probably relate to how much is learned by teaching someone else. It is a simple, yet remarkably effective technique. Many have said, "If you can teach it, then you have learned it for life."
For more information on using narrations to teach, you may want to visit the following websites:
Narration Beats Tests -- by Karen Andreola (author of A Charlotte Mason Companion)
Tips for Narration -- by Susan Wise Bauer (author of The Well-Trained Mind, A Guide to Classical Education at Home)
Illustrating Science Lessons is Another Form of Narration -- by Karen Andreola (author of A Charlotte Mason Companion)
We provide occasional commentary, but the books and experiment kits provide the substance of the program. Typically, our comments clarify an assignment, point out a minor error in a text, or note an upcoming topic that may prompt further discussion.
Our instructor's guides are designed to provide a logically organized structure to the reading assignments, experiments, and activities. However, they are much more than just schedules. They allow you to use multiple books and experiment kits concurrently, rather than simply "read this book, then this book." The experiments actually relate closely to the reading and multiple books add variety to the topic being studied. The guides also include reproducible student notebook pages and vocabulary word lists. Best of all, these time-savers are a bargain at a price of $19.95 ($15.96 if purchased with a set).
The recommended ages for our courses are directed more towards a child’s current reading level than their prior knowledge of science. The Level I courses are not required to be completed before the Level II courses. However, if you feel that your child will become frustrated by the more challenging reading in the Level II courses, then we would suggest using a Level I program with that child. Our age and grade levels are simply recommendations. You are the best judge of your children’s needs.
Yes. A single package can be shared with multiple students and with various ages of children. The notebook pages are reproducible for multiple students. The experiment kits can be shared with several students at the same time (Note: some consumable materials may need to be replaced if you plan to save the kits for younger children to use in subsequent years).
If you have children with widely varied ages, then you may want to consider using a Level I and a Level II program simultaneously. However, others have successfully used our curriculum by having the younger student(s) “listen in” on the Level II study. This is typically done with the understanding that the younger children will hear the information again at a later date.
Yes. The materials can be shared between small groups of students. Depending on your group’s schedule, you may want to have the parents cover some of the material at home (e.g. complete the reading assignments at home and the experiments at the co-op).
Small schools can also successfully use our curriculum. The books can be shared by 2 or 3
students, and the experiment kits can also be shared. Typically, only one Instructor’s Guide is needed. Please contact us for special pricing on classroom orders.
Although we understand that this would be a convenient option, it is simply not feasible with the variety of books that we use and the wide range of topics that need to be covered. There are times when the two levels might overlap, but not as a general rule. However, this does not prevent two different aged children from learning from each level of the curriculum. For example, an older child studying Biology II could assist a younger child with the reading and experiments in Biology I. The younger child could also listen to the reading assignments and observe the experiments of the older child. Both would benefit from the exposure to the different presentations of the material.
Each of our science courses is intended to take an entire school year (36 weeks) to complete. For example, you may decide to do Chemistry I in grade 1, followed by Physics I in grade 2, followed by Biology I in grade 3 (also see the related question below concerning order of study). This is assuming that you follow our scheduled outline. Some families may elect to speed up or slow down the pace.
No. A child may start at any point in our curriculum without prior knowledge of that subject. There is no particular order of study that needs to be followed or any material in one subject that requires an understanding from another. If you were to poll the “experts”, you would find wide disparity in their opinions of which science should be studied first, and a variety of reasons why. The opinions seem to be determined as much by area of expertise as anything else. We recommend that you select the course that is most interesting to your child. At this age, our goal is to promote an interest in science.
Yes! That is one of the main features of our program. We understand how frustrating it is to be asked to complete an experiment that is completely unrelated to the subject matter being studied. Our Instructor’s Guides are designed to provide a logical order to the reading assignments and experiments.
No. The student notebooks are created using our reproducible pages (now available online) or any other form of notebook that you and your children prefer to use. The notebook will include narrations (summarizations), sketches and drawings, definitions, experiment pages, and any other items that you would like to include (e.g. photographs, nature walk “treasures”, etc.).
Yes. Our books and experiment kits can be purchased separately or as a complete set. The Instructor’s Guides are also available individually. We provide our products separately in order to accommodate those that use their library or already own some of the titles. However, please keep in mind that our curriculum is intended to be used as a complete program. It will not be nearly as effective if only a few books are used or the experiments are excluded. However, if you have a great library nearby and can organize your checkout times to correspond to your schedule, then you can definitely use our program successfully.
We had originally planned to produce a printed catalog. However, we have had very few requests for one. Most people are now comfortable with looking at products in an online environment. This method allows the most up-to-date information to be available to all of our customers. In addition, the cost of printing a catalog would likely force us to increase our pricing. We hope that you will find our online catalog to be sufficient.
We plan to attend a very limited number of conferences. We feel that it is necessary to concentrate on finishing and refining the curriculum before we can devote significant amounts of time to traveling to conferences. We do hope to attend more conferences in the future.
Our long-term plans will depend on the needs of our customers. We have had numerous inquiries about development of the curriculum for ages 13 and up. We are currently in the process of developing our level III courses and hope to have them completed soon. These courses will be intended for 12-15 year olds.